2018 Hot Stove Phase II – Winter Meetings to Pitchers/Catchers Report

12/16/2017

 

Let’s start a new thread. Hot Stove Phase II – Winter Meetings to mid- February (pitchers and catchers report to ST).

 

As we all know, the Winter Meetings generate all sorts of news and rumors, but not that many actual transactions occur (during the meetings) in the big scheme of things. But the seeds are sown during the Winter Meetings. We’ve also had the Rule 5 Draft. As expected, the Rox didn’t take anyone in the Major League portion of the Rule 5 Draft, and only lost Julian Fernandez (to the Giants). I think Fernandez sticking with the Giants is a real long shot. I expect to see him Hartford by mid-season.

 

Of course the Rox signed Bryan Shaw (essentially Pat Neshek’s replacement – I think he’s a little better than Neshek) and re-signed Jake McGee.

 

Ryan Schoppe from Purple Row wrote this regarding the Rockies current payroll/budget yesterday:

 

“When we combine all of the team’s salary figures, the Rockies’ current 2018 payroll is at $121.6 million, and assuming that the team’s payroll in 2018 is roughly equivalent to the 2017 payroll, that leaves $25 million for them to spend this offseason.”

 

I tend to believe payroll will increase a bit, so I think the Rox really have about 30M remaining to work with for 2018. I we are to believe what we read, negotiations with Greg Holland are well underway, and we may even be close to resigning him. If true (and this would apply to Wade Davis as well), I anticipate an AAV of 15Mish.

 

So that leaves +/- 15M for a big bat – the “position” I think we really need.

 

Logan Morrison?

Jay Bruce?

Lorenzo Cain?

Someone via trade – Abreu (highly unlikely), Yelich (the price will be astronomical), one of my proposed one-stop shopping deals (Colome and Longoria? Hicks and an out-of-favor Yankee Dellin Betances?)

I’m sincerely intrigued by my Hicks/Betances proposed trade. According to MLB Trade Rumors….Hicks is due 3M via year 1 arbitration. Betances is due about 4.5M via arbitration. Both are Club controlled in 2018 and 2019. If we believe what we read, the Yanks are currently dangling Clint Frazier (who I also covet – Frazier can play CF) in a proposed deal with the Pirates for Gerit Cole. If that deal falls through, let’s offer DJ and Jeff Hoffman. Then……play a platoon of McMahon/Valaika at 2nd and sign Logan Morrison.

 

Let the Hot Stove discussion continue!

 

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Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Trading Longoria now prevented him from becoming a 10/5 player five days into next season. This prevented him from gaining the right to block trades.

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Player A is Addison Reed and player B is Greg Holland. I prefer player A and wish player B all the luck in finding a high paying contract with some other team.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/rockies-rumors-interested-addison-reed.html

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

As I recall last year Holland had lots of fly outs and some critical fly balls left the park. The really bad part was that the ones that left the park were usually after walks.

Jim Moore
Jim Moore
2 years ago

Interesting article from our old friend Tracy http://insidetheseams.com/could-agon-arrive-at-coors/. Thoughts?

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Moore

“The Rockies haven’t been in touch with Adrian Gonzalez, GM Jeff Bridich tells MLB.com’s Thomas Harding. “

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

Rockies sign Dante Bichette Jr. to a minor league deal.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/minor-mlb-transactions-122317.html

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago

Happy New Year’s, Rockies. Rockies sign Wade Davis! Shaw, McGee, Davis, Oberg, and Rusin are locks. We also have Otto, Estevez, Senzatela, etc competing for the remaining BP spots. Gone are the days of scrap aging free agents. Thanks Steve Foster for getting Wade Davis after winning over Greg Holland last year with his KC connections. Now everyone in the West will say it’s a six-inning game against the Rockies. It used to be the Dodgers and Giants that always… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

Rockies lose their #3 draft pick due to the signing of Wade Davis to a 3 year $52MM contract. I just hope Holland can do as well somewhere else.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/rockies-sign-wade-davis.html

EdtheUmp
EdtheUmp
2 years ago

This signing assures McMahon the opportunity to “grab it and go” this spring as far as the 1B position goes. Having Desi and Parra as fallbacks bodes well for the Rox on offense in ’18.The BP is gonna be. potentially, the best we’ve ever had. As is always the case: SP’ing will determine our fate as ’18 progresses. Hang on to your hat!! Good times may be just around the corner.

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago

Free McMahon and roll with this lineup. If he has a Cody Bellinger like impact on the team, the Rockies can be leading story nightly on MLBN.

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

We also have to say good riddance of Qualls and Motte. It’s more than incremental gain to start the year without bad drag factors. Jairo Diaz is an incremental gain as well now that he’s another year further away from TJ.

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

Shane Carle DFAed to make room for Wade Davis.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/rockies-designate-shane-carle.html

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  Bob K.

Pirates have claimed Shane Carle off of waivers. The Rockies had received him from the Pirates in the Rob Scahill trade.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/01/pirates-claim-shane-carle-waivers-rockies-dfa-johnny-barbato.html

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago

Not hot stove related, but my off season duty to turn in my ballot for Purp30 prospect list. Here it is as follows: My PR 40 list 1. Brendan Rodgers – there’s him and everyone else. 2. Riley Pint – value pitcher more than position player giving him nod over McMahon 3. Ryan McMahon – show time at 1B this year; wouldn’t it be great if he has a Cody Bellinger-like impact? 4. Ryan Castellani 5. Colton Welker – the… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
2 years ago

For anyone who may have been waiting for the inevitable negative comment about the Wade Davis signing …. keep on waiting! I love it. Overpay? No such thing with a top reliever. He gets a little less than Melancon last winter, and I like him a whole lot more. He’s still a big time strikeout pitcher; Melancon never was. No red flags here other than age. Velocity and component stats were fine last year; walk rate a little uncharacteristically high,… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Fangraphs has decided to provide much more than the desired negativity with their prediction that adding Davis has increased the Rockies to an 80 win team.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/wade-davis-and-the-long-term/

EdtheUmp
EdtheUmp
2 years ago

Fellas and gals… MLB Network has opined that the Davis move was a good one for the Rockies…but…they noted the dizzying decrease in FB velocity from Davis the last three years. I am going to summarize the data as I did not take notes or DVR the data. Number of 4-seam FB’s thrown: 2015…600+ at 97 MPH +, 2016…120+ at 95 MPH +, 2017…8 at 93 MPH +. The pundits were very concerned with the drop in velocity. VERY! In… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Screw the projection system; they don’t consider Bud Black and Steve Foster influence adding 5-10 wins to the club. They don’t consider Desmond back in a big way similar to Parra. They also think Rockies rotation will regress, but not going to happen with our pitching coaches at the helm. They’ve finally solved the pitching mystery at altitude.

SCREW THE PROJECTION SYSTEMS. My early call is 90 wins, 95 if we add Eric Hosmer.

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

I recall that Bridich said early on that Hosmer is out of their price range.

Agbayani
Agbayani
2 years ago

Wade Davis: I stand corrected. The velocity is down from his peak. I forgot to correct for the change in velocity measurements that Carp told us about last year. But … I still like the signing, even though I don’t think the peak velocity is coming back. I’m generally a stats geek, but I have to object to some of the more blustery stats geekery I’ve seen about the Davis signing. Having a guy like Davis (or Holland in the… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago

I am reading Bill James handbook of baseball 2018. Shocking discovery – Eric Hosmer was at the bottom of all fist basemen in the runs saved category with a large negative number. Another shocker – Lucroy was among the laggards in runs saved category with a large negative number like Hosmer. No wonder why JB let Lucroy walk and got Ianetta instead. Ianetta was neither a leader nor a laggard in runs saved. Also I believe his durability was a… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

The years are too many but considering the expected annual rate of $30MM for top players makes the $20MM AAV look not so bad.

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

Dahl finally cleared to start swinging a bat. MRI in November shows injury completely healed.

https://www.mlb.com/rockies/news/rockies-david-dahl-cleared-to-swing-bat/c-264232684

Doc
Doc
2 years ago

This from ESPN regarding remaining top free agents. Your thoughts? Logan Morrison, 1B (11) Best bet: Colorado Rockies Don’t be surprised: Los Angeles Angels Morrison had a huge power breakout at a relatively late stage in his career — and not just because of the rabbit ball. He was one of those players who focused on his launch angle, and as a result, his fly ball rate increased from 32 percent to 43.4 percent. The Rockies need to give Nolan… Read more »

Doc
Doc
2 years ago

I was disappointed the way BB used (failed to use) McMahon last year–got the impression he didn’t want him around.

roxnsox
roxnsox
2 years ago
Reply to  Doc

I don’t know about Bud not wanting him around (why would he take that position with one of their prized prospects?), but I too was disappointed and wonder why they called him essentially up to pinch-hit, as it turned out. A player can’t show his stuff if he doesn’t play, and carp and others have been tooting McMahon’s horn, so…let’s see him play!

Bob in Indy
Bob in Indy
2 years ago

What is Ryan McMahon’s defensive ability? Will he be the outstanding glove we need at 1B to allow Nolan, Trevor, and DJ to keep making all those defensive gems which obviously wouldn’t be gems without a solid glove on the receiving end? I keep seeing all this analysis on his batting, but with our infielders a great glove at first is critical.

Bob in Indy
Bob in Indy
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Thanks, Carp!

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

Rockies agree to terms with Chris Rusin.

“The Rockies agreed to a $1,287,500 payday with lefty Chris Rusin, per Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter). He’ll fall a bit shy of his $1.4MM projection. Rusin, 31, is fresh off of a strong season in which he compiled a 2.65 ERA in 85 frames. He figures to be a key component of the Colorado bullpen again in 2018.”

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

I loved that quick pitch against Justin Turner. So effective cuz Turner relies on timing of his high high step. He was clearly frustrated as he complained to the umpire every time up.

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago
Reply to  Bob K.

All of the Rockies arbitration cases have been settled with one year deals.

Chad Bettis ———- $2MM
Charlie Blackmon — $14MM
Chris Rusin ———- $1.287MM
DJ LeMahieu ——– $8.5MM

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/arbtracker2018

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago

Copied/pasted from CBS article: The waiiiiiiting may no longer be the hardest part Scott Boras has leveraged winter waiting games and cozy relationships with team owners into billions of dollars for his clients. But with teams getting smarter, plus the luxury-tax calibration and other factors in play, one AL exec predicts that the balance of power in negotiations might finally swing in the other direction. “Boras’ strategy is finally going to blow up on him,” he said. “Thank goodness for… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Hot stove still turned off.

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

I’d say we wait and see how 2018 goes: Is Trevor Story the real deal? (I think he is as he always adjust back at every level). Is Ryan McMahon the real deal? If he can perform even 2/3 of Cody Bellinger talent, we have a replacement at 1B or 2B. Is Brian Mundell finally the answer at 1B? He has climbed up the Purp30 charts and a RH bat. But I’ve always said here’s our next 1B every year… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
Admin
rockymountainhigh
2 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Not worried, the Brewers are like San Diego a few years a ago was a total bust. Their pitching isn’t anywhere near the Rockies. Yelich now playing without Stanton and he’ll be exposed big time.

Bob K.
Bob K.
2 years ago

MLB Top 100 list.

15 – Brendan Rodgers
41- Ryan McMahon
100 – Riley Pint

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/

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