Another Lackadaisical Sunday Loss

The Rockies may have had their future ace on the mound, but you wouldn’t know it from the game highlights which were limited to Johnathan Herrera and the fact that the team didn’t commit an error.  Other than that there was little to rejoice in Sundays performance, as the team sleepwalked through another Sunday.

While many a reporter might make an excuse for the line-up being filled with bench players, stating the late rain-soaked game the night before, those that follow the team closely will have no trouble recognizing the lack of starters as a continuing trend, disturbing in its consistency as well as troubling in its complete lack of effectiveness.

Pomeranz looked as uncomfortable on the mound as we’ve seen him, making over 30 pitches to get out of the first inning with a 2-0 deficit thanks to a Chris Young home run.  His line showed his struggles: 4 1/3 innings, five runs, nine hits on 100 pitches.  He didn’t get the benefit of some obvious strikes that were called balls, possibly the way they were received by Rosario, or maybe because he was new to The Show.  Either way he struggled with command and keeping runners at their bases and left the game with bases loaded in the fifth with the team down 5-0.

The Rockies had a mini-rally in the eighth.  After taking back two runs to bring the score to 5-2, Ramon Hernandez came to the plate with bases loaded and proceeded to ground out to first, ending any sort of momentum before it really started.

After the game Pomeranz offered this explanation as to his struggles:

Most of those hits — the home run the first inning — were fastballs away that were kind of coming back middle of the plate up…They weren’t down. They’re a good fast-ball hitting team, and when you’re missing down the middle [and] up, they’re going to hit it.  I didn’t throw a lot of changeups today, so I didn’t have a good mix of three pitches…They weren’t swinging at my curveball. It was like they were sitting on it waiting for fastballs.

 


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Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago

I respectfully disagree that the team “sleepwalked” thru another Sunday. I think we are becoming so jaded with all of the Sunday losses that we overlook the fact the Trevor Cahill pitched a decent game. 19 of his 22 outs were either a strike out or ground out. How many balls made it to the outfield? I think his sinker was working pretty darn well. If that had been Aaron Cook we would all be singing his praises and declaring… Read more »

konaman
konaman
8 years ago

Personally I do not know any other team that sits 2+ regulars at the same game the same day (Sunday) loss after loss after loss. Insanity is the definition that is JT, expecting different results from the same exact actions, amazing!!!

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago
Reply to  konaman

How about the Dbacks? Fri vs Sun. Kubel/Parra Bloomquist/McDonald. Actually I think there was a 3rd but I can’t remember. You could check if you are interested.

Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Prog mentioned that he hadn’t renewed his Sunday package based on lineups like this one being the norm. I gave Tracy kind of a pass for this one given the late end to yesterday’s game. I got ripped for this by some folks back on ITR, but at the risk of being ripped again: if you’re going to avoid playing certain guys in a day game after a night game, could you please rest some guys on Saturday night? Sunday… Read more »

Pooter
Pooter
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I did like the lineup yesterday as everyone could see from my posts but if I were Jimmer I would probably rest people on Monday or Tuesday given this teams history on Sunday. Change things up a bit Jimmer! SPARK PLUG FOR 3RD BASE JOB!!!!!!! Nelson and Herrera need to swap roles. Like Sunday, Herrera would turn the lineup over hitting 8th. and I really hope Pomeranze was nervous, cold, and whatever else that caused him to look like a… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Umm, should have been “Cahill was sharp.”

GARY
GARY
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I have believed since the days of the Blake St.Bombers that the Rox always hit hard throwers better than finesse,off speed guys.Had a friend who turned me on to his theory about this in mid 90’s and still often seems to be true.

GARY
GARY
8 years ago

Has anyone noticed the more tense after game press conferences since Root’s new girl has started asking more RWO type questions about things like game stategy,substitutions and line ups.Tracy has been obviously “miffed” now a couple of times by her or some of the other media “wretches” actually questioning JT’s decisions.Today several followed up on each others questions when they felt Tracy’s answer was inadaquet.Interesting to see the press doing there job and not just accepting the party line.Now if… Read more »

Miketober
Miketober
8 years ago

Wow! A lot of great comments here and on the other post. And Jaredean and Jeem’s writing rivals anything in the print media. I pre-defended the Sunday line-up Saturday night, so I’ll stick to my guns now. I pretty much agree with what Mike Raysfan said; the weak links were EY and Giambi. But EY has provided a spark lately and Jason needed the AB’s, and had an excellent AB during the 8th inning mini-rally. And the regulars Tulo, Cuddyer,… Read more »

Jeff F
Jeff F
8 years ago

Sundays, Lets request MLB let the Rox play a night game on Sunday so they can break this streak of Sunday Losses. Maybe a ESPN game of the Week would make it feel like Friday or Saturday

Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Just noticed from one of the other threads that Pacheco was sent down. Here’s hoping that he catches every day. The poor guy needs to have a position he can dedicate himself to learning rather than being moved around every few months as the Rockies desperately try to fill the latest black hole in their lineup.

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

THANK YOU. I couldn’t agree more.

Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Nelson or Herrera at 3B? Jaredean, I don’t think we have a poll feature, but I wonder what people think. I’m no fan of Herrera as a starter anywhere since his bat is too weak. But unless the Rockies come up with a Plan B (that is, Plan B in case Casey Blake’s neck doesn’t hold up, something we learned about a month ago now), I’m definitely leaning toward him over Nelson. Here’s why: 1. They’re both very poor at… Read more »

Pooter
Pooter
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Good info! I based my opinion off of Nelson’s LAAAAMMME at bats so far this season. When the team has the case of the pop ups so does Chris and when it’s a case of the dribblers so does Chris. I ask myself who would be the better 8 hole hitter or even 2 hole hitter and I think Spark Plug wins both of those. Defense has to be about even. I like Nelson better but WOW his at bats… Read more »

Cesar Carvajal
Cesar Carvajal
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

WOW, a I have learned a lot from this post. I’m a big fan of numbers but I don’t have time to watch them closely. This comparison between Herrera and Nelson is excellent. I’ve already said two or three weeks ago that I do like Herrera over Nelson in 3B. It’s just about having a balanced lineup (offense, defense and versatility). Herrera isn’t a good hitter, he just needs to hit well enough to be a good defender in a… Read more »

jaredean
jaredean
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

“I don’t think we have a poll feature”

Oh man, i’m hurt! Do you not look at the front of the site??? 🙂 I’ve had a poll from day one!

I’ve added the poll question to the front as well as this post above…

Julian
Julian
8 years ago

Agbayani, I’m not sure whether Pacheco should catch or play 3B at CS. Short term, if he plays a month or two at 3B and becomes better as a fielder, then he might be able to play the position for the Rockies before Arenado takes over, but under that scenario, I don’t think that there would be much of a time period between when Pacheco gets called up and when Arenado gets called up. Does he currently catch well enough… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’ve made so many comments on this I will just say this. For me, I truely believe the Rockies brain trust are NOT on the same page when it comes to Pacheco. A good start would be them figuring that out.

I’ve often wondered if Pacheco should be given a lot of time at 1st and see how that works out.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike Raysfan

I don’t think Pacheco is good enough to come to a concensus on. He’s not bad enough to simply cut loose either. Jack of all trades, master of none. The more you try to make him become a certain position, the less value he has. This may not be fair to him, but I think its in the Rockies best interest to play him at a different position every day in AAA because in all reality thats what he’ll do… Read more »

OrangeRocks
OrangeRocks
8 years ago
Reply to  Mike Raysfan

Here is the deal with Pacheco – he is a DH and a guy named Giambi has that spot locked up with the Rockies for awhile. That’s all because he does not play well enough at any position in the field to be a NL MLB regular. I do like him as the Rockies sixth infielder and third catcher, however J Tracy sees these things just a bit differently. Pacheco did learn to catch last year at AAA, however the… Read more »

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
8 years ago

Another one for the Ask Ed the Ump file, not sure where to stick this, but what did you think of the Dodgers triple play off a controversial foul call/noncall on a bunt?

For those that didn’t see it:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/dodgers-turn-first-2-5-4-3-triple-023719180.html

Kinda a fubar situation.

Cisco Kid
Cisco Kid
8 years ago
Reply to  ProgMatinee

This triple play is another reason to not get too excited over the Dodgers’ 9-1 start to the season. Not to take away anything from the way they’ve played, but yesterday’s game was gift wrapped for them. Also, look who they’ve played these first 10 games- 7 games against the Padres and 3 against the Pirates, arguably 2 of the worst teams in baseball. Yes, and before anyone else mentions it, the Rox did lose 2 out of 3 to… Read more »

Miketober
Miketober
8 years ago
Reply to  Cisco Kid

Cisco, in a strange way you could almost say the Rockies are lucky the Dodgers are 9-1. LA isn’t going to win 146 games, they are going to have hot streaks and cold streaks just like everybody else. It’s better that they have their hot streak when they are playing somebody else.

Miketober
Miketober
8 years ago
Reply to  ProgMatinee

And if it was going to be a fair ball, wouldn’t that be an infield fly situation? Ed, is the infield fly rule implicit, or does the ball have to be in the air long enough for the ump to physically “call” it, like in a pop-up?

Miketober
Miketober
8 years ago
Reply to  Miketober

Oh – never mind. I see now that the ball was on the ground. But Ed, if you don’t mind I’m still curious about my question even if it doesn’t apply in this situation.

I just watched the replay. Even Vin Scully kept insisting that the ball was dead.

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago
Reply to  Miketober

1st the umpire has to declare a fair or foul ball before calling the infield fly

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago
Reply to  Miketober

1st the umpire has to declare a fair or foul ball before calling the infield fly. This is better answered by Ed.

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago

If I were a baserunner and saw the motion(s) from Dale Scott, my initial thoughts would have been foul ball.

OrangeRocks
OrangeRocks
8 years ago

A bunch of great comments from posters that I usually mostly agree with, however Herrera regularly at thirdbase is about the worst idea that I can think of. As someone noted above it kinda reminds me of SU Barmes at secondbase, and I really really hated that. Johnny is just ok as a utility infielder, however he does play some shortstop which is a plus but not essential since Scutaro can play there too. When you run him out there… Read more »

Pooter
Pooter
8 years ago
Reply to  OrangeRocks

I understand your points but then put it this way: Nelson or Herrera? 3rd base is such a joke for the Rockies that it comes down to who can hit better in the 8th spot and make the routine play at 3rd base. Nelson kind of reminds me of Spilly on offense, marginal power threat, and underachieving. I like Herrera because he brings something different to the lineup, kind of the same reasons I like EY JR. When a lineup… Read more »

Cisco Kid
Cisco Kid
8 years ago

Minor Leagues report for Sunday:

Col Springs-PPD

Tulsa (W 2-1)
Nick Schmidt (Obtained for H. Street)- 6 IP, 5H, 1 ER, 3 Ks
N. Arenado- 2-3, HR, RBI (.395 BA)
Josh Rutledge-2-4 (.286 BA)
Ben Paulsen- 1-4 (.290 BA)

Modesto (L 10-9)
Cory Dickerson- 2-5, 2 RBI (.439 BA)

Ashville (W 9-6)
Harry Belafonte Riggins- 4-5, 3 RBI (.412 BA)

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
8 years ago

Regarding the triple play bunt; I thought the HP ump threw his arms up as if signaling foul ball; so that’s why the runners never moved; then he says fair ball after calling it foul ball which is dead ball. Ed the Ump?

Timo
Timo
8 years ago

This is kinda off topic and don’t get me wrong, I love Tulo. However, I can’t remember the last time he has delivered a walk-off or even a really clutch hit? I can remember Cargo several times last season and of course Todd two nights in a row prior to yesterday’s game. I even remember Giambi’s HR last year but for the life of me, no Tulo AB’s come to mind. Can anybody help me out on this?

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
8 years ago
Reply to  Timo

I can let you know tonight. I’m actually working on a project for the site that has the answer, but its at home.

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
8 years ago
Reply to  Timo

2012 – Tulo had a sac fly in the season opener; he had an RBI grounder with runner on 3rd and less than two outs (can’t remember which game exactly but it was a game won); he’s been willing to take walks in late game clutch situations. Had that all important insurance run on a towering HR in the season opener. If you want the heroics, he had that walkoff against the Dodgers in 2009. I also remember his double… Read more »

DrRockies
Editor
DrRockies
8 years ago

but you are spot on RMH…they were even mentioning on the radio yesterday that everyone expects Tulo and Cargo to always get the walkoff, driving in runs every at bat yada yada. Would it be nice? Sure but just having them in the lineup is 95% better than the majority of major leaguers. Last year you can throw out just because the team was performing so poorly top to bottom, he put too much pressure on himself, expanding his strike… Read more »

Timo
Timo
8 years ago
Reply to  Timo

Thanks guys! I knew there had to be some in there, just couldn’t remember. I guess living in the moment I can’t get the two ugly swing-and-misses from Friday and Saturday out of my head. Go Rox!

Miketober
Miketober
8 years ago
Reply to  Timo

Two seasons ago, right before the September collapse, 10-9 win over the Giants at home. Cargo on 1B. Tulo hit a double to the LC gap and Cargo scored the winner. That’s the last one I remember.

Miketober
Miketober
8 years ago
Reply to  Timo

Thanks Jared. Cool video. I’m one of those people in the background on the 3B side, a little past 3B, about row 11 I think. That walk-off will forever be etched in my brain.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
8 years ago
Reply to  Miketober

Here’s a few from my walk off analysis. Haven’t done 07 or 08 yet. The second name here is who scored. Remember this is just home game winning hits.

2009 Tuesday, Aug 25 LAD Troy Tulowitzki Single Ian Stewart
2010 Sunday, Aug 15 MIL Troy Tulowitzki Single Dexter Fowler
2010 Saturday, Sep 25 SFG Troy Tulowitzki Double Carlos Gonzales

None for Tulo in 2011.

jaredean
jaredean
8 years ago

Interested to know as to who the “other” would be on the survey, since it should be someone that is currently on the 25 man roster (i guess the question isn’t worded that way, so i assume many are thinking Nolan?)

Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Jaredean, sorry ’bout not noticing the poll! At the start of the season I would’ve voted 1. Pacheco (other), 2. Nelson, 3. Herrera. But I’ve reassessed, so I’m casting my vote (rather unenthusiastically) for Jonny. I still think Nelson will outhit Herrera, but not by enough of a margin to make up for Nelson’s defensive deficiencies. But right now, without spending another single day in the minors, Arenado projects as just about even with Nelson, and at age 21 he… Read more »

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