Apodaca New Minor League Pitching Coordinator

Bob Apodaca and Doug Linton will join Mark Wiley as minor league pitching coordinators. Apodaca will instruct pitchers at the lower levels of the minor leagues according to Renck.

Also reported is news that no Double-A manager has been named, but Duane Espy will remain involved with the Tulsa club, likely in the director of operations role. Mark Strittmatter returns to the Rockies as their roving minor-league catching instructor. Jimmy Johnson has been let go as the roving hitting coach.

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GARY
GARY
7 years ago

Good soldier-fell on his sword for the team.As the #1 fire Apodaca cheerleader,I’m not sorry to see him land on his feet,but wish it were with another organization.It appears to me we are keeping evryone from the old guard who stayed loyal to DOD and rather than speak out that the real problem is the GM[s].The only one with true integrity was Jim Tracy who refused to be the whipping boy for the O’Dowd regime any longer.

sabrchip
sabrchip
7 years ago

The true problem in the player development program comes with the repeated leap-frogging of Drillers to the Rox. Why have a high altitude franchise just 65 miles south if its not being used to “acclimate” prospects to the uniqueness of Mile High baseball? Every pitcher and hitter needs to learn to play at the Springs before being called up. The talk about Coors Field pales to the launching pad at Security Service Field. If one could pitch successfully down “south”,… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

I like it, sabrchip — we’re low altitude for the Leadville guys. Maybe we need to move our AAA club there; it’ll seem easy for pitchers when they come back down to earth on arrival at Coors. Seriously, I think you’re right about the Springs AAA club. They don’t seem to know what to do with it. I’m not sure if this bodes well or whether it shows shell-shocked pitchers afraid to pitch up in the zone, giving away big… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Chatwood is only what? 21? Still plenty of time for him. Sabr, Dr. Rockies and I along with others had this very conversation nearing the end of the season. You are spot on. Why isn’t the Springs being used as a development center for pitchers? Why is it the Rockies do not have a staff of pitching coaches located there? One of the excuses previous mentioned by the Rockies organization is in fact exactly what you mention. “The talk about… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago

Sabrchip – nice point about CS. I agree, and have noted before that the Rox in general don’t do a good job of turning the altitude into an advantage. More of the guys should live here year round, and the Tulo/Giambi offseason training camp concept would be more effective if done at altitude. Regarding pitchers – we can all agree that we don’t need fly ball pitchers – but Coors is so spacious, it doesn’t automatically mean a GB pitcher… Read more »

jeem
jeem
7 years ago

Meanwhile, the Royals…

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago
Reply to  jeem

Sad day for some Rays fans. I’m shocked they gave up both Shields and Davis. Ironically one of the best pitching duals I got to see was Davis and Greinke when he was with the Royals.

Staying young has worked up to now for the Rays. I sure hope it still does.

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

Raysfan, this should be a happy day. Your club has a smart GM who understands player aging patterns and the competition cycle. Who knows that the Yankees are still there but getting older every day, that the Blue Jays are all about now, and that today’s top prospects are tomorrow’s Evan Longorias and David Prices, and that yesterday’s Scott Kazmirs are, umm, out of baseball. On the other hand, the bs machine that is 20th and Blake continues unabated. Renck’s… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

LOL!!! Good post! Oh so very true.

The Rays move is a double edge sword for me. True enough they do manage to stay young, manage the payroll, and be competitive BUT they did win 90 games last season and didn’t make the playoffs. A lot of that had to do with very good pitching. I was hoping they would have another run this season. Only time will tell if the remaining staff is up to the task.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago

At least there’s a pulse in KC and wherever the Rays play :p. Both smaller market teams that want to do something to make their organizations better rather than just play musical chairs in the office.

GARY
GARY
7 years ago

WTF! Don’t we have prospects? Don’t we have alot of AAAA types who might florish at sea level.Don’t we have a glarring need for solid starting pitching.Aren’t we a mid market team-WITH GREAT ATTENDANCE! About the only thing we don’t have in common with the Royals is a competant general manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago
Reply to  GARY

I do wonder what it would have taken. I would have given up say Fowler, Pomeranz and Arenado for the two pitchers. Not sure that would have been enough.

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

Gary, Prog, Raysfan: our division just got better again. We all know how much cash the Dodgers dumped out there last year, and now they’ve added Greinke. The Diamondbacks are a very good team. The Giants don’t look that great on paper, but if I remember correctly they just some big trophy for the second time in three years. Guys, we should be thinking like the Rays, not like the Royals. I’m kind of looking forward to 2013 because we… Read more »

GARY
GARY
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Interesting take Ag,and I always respect your opinion.It’s just that everyone continues to improve in the division except us.I realize I won’t live long enough to see the ROX win a WS[I’m 66],but I still want to have a reason to watch my favorite sport.I believe you,me,Prog.and just about all the regulars here,advocated playing the youngsters from July on this year.As I posted at seasons end,I thought there were alot of bright spots offensively but the pitching sabatoged the results.I… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

Gary, I see your point. Why do our “competitive phases” last 4 years (2007-2010) while other clubs seem to have one down year and then they’re right back in it? The problem I see is that Cuddyer type signings actually hurt in the long run. And that’s the most they’re talking about right now. When I was a kid “rebuilding” meant writing off the better part of a decade. I don’t see that anymore. I see clubs turn it completely… Read more »

Cisco Kid
Cisco Kid
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Ag, Patience has a shelf life, and for some of us it has expired unless the Rox come out of the gate strong next season. Rox management has already lost quite a few of us and I believe it will be reflected in the attendance figures come next year. I believe Monfart suspects this is already happening. Why would all of a sudden has he and DOD been doing the media tour the past few weeks and appearing on every… Read more »

jeem
jeem
7 years ago
Reply to  Cisco Kid

Can we PLEASE dispense with the Monfert/Monfart slurs?

Cisco Kid
Cisco Kid
7 years ago
Reply to  jeem

And why is that Jeem? Because it’s disrespectful to the owners of the team? Well guess what, as owners of this team they have a civic duty as public trustees of the team to make us proud of the Rockies, not make them a national laughing stock of an organization. The taxpayers of this state built a state of the art stadium and gave them a sweetheart deal with which to operate. They’ve abused that trust and constantly insult the… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago
Reply to  Cisco Kid

Just to clarify the “be nice to the MonFARTs” zone – is it the Holiday season, or the Matt Holliday season? I think the MonFARTs have caused Cisco permanent spelling/association issues! 🙂

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

This “light at the end of the tunnel” is a sham if it means when you finally reach the end the team is disinterested in making the final leap across the line into glory. We were there in 2007 and what did the Rockies do during the offseason to improve in 2008? Jayson freaking Nix. You can stockpile your prospects all you want, if you aren’t willing to deal them at the right time to get better short term, long… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago

Looks like the Fowler to the Reds deal is all but dead now. Not sure I understand why the Reds opted to go with Sin-Soo Choo for CF but I’m neutral when it comes to the Reds so its not anything I need to worry about.

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago

Oh yeah … *rumor* has it Roy Oswalt will be a SF Giant. Meanwhile back at the ranch the Rockies are still enjoying winter hybernation :>)

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

Let me try to convince you guys that it’s better to rip it apart and start over again. Case in point: Arizona Diamondbacks. Here’s how many games they’ve won each year since creation in 1998: 65, 100, 85, 92 (won World Series), 98, 84, 51 (imagine that! 13 games worse than last year’s Rockies), 77, 76, 90, 82, 70, 65 (imagine that! one game better than last year’s Rockies), 94, 81. And this year, the smart money would guess about… Read more »

GARY
GARY
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Ag,as we get further into the winter I’d like your take,based on your theory,just how f..king bad we have to get.This past season was excruciating for me.I think we played alot of kids who should be even better this year,so I don’t see what more is available at the 8 field positions.To me the team that made the most “gutsy”moves the past 2 seasons is the A’s.They traded a bunch of pitching we’d kill for and still made that amazing… Read more »

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago

I’d be more willing to rip it apart and start over if the front office was cleared and a guy with proven history was hired to put it together.

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

I like it Gary … going Egyptian on the Rockies. How soon can we get competitive? I see what we’ve got in the majors and in, say, High A and up, and I say “not before 2015.” And that’s if we’re lucky and some talented guys (think Pomeranz, Arenado, Rutledge, Rosario) pan out. So I start with this: who on this current roster either (1) won’t be here in 2015, or (2) could still be here, but will be making… Read more »

Doc
Doc
7 years ago

“I don’t get dumping Alex White now for nothing…”

You forget Ag, with DOD it’s all about the “clubhouse culture”. If you want out, just march out of step and you’ll be sent packing. There is no overall plan except for how to keep his job. What do you think the over/under is on DOD being named club president within the year? Which, if it happens, will only prove that Dan is the smartest man in baseball.

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago

I see where the Braves are still pursuing Fowler (according to MLB Rumors). At one point Mike Minor was mentioned as someone the Rox might be interested in from the Braves. I’m not sure about blowing up the whole club and starting completely from scratch, but I do absolutely believe we need to address 1st base ASAP (in fact, it already too late, we should have already addressed it). In my opinion, Helton is done. You can’t have your weakest… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

I don’t think anyone needs to panic sell. As I’ve said before, there’s probably no harm in seeing how the season begins, and then getting value for some guys if we fall out of contention. But some opportunities pass you by. I’m still kind of stunned by that Cleveland-D’backs-Reds deal. Cleveland gives up Choo to play CF for the Reds. That’s a fine offensive player, but really a stretch to have him play CF regularly. And the D’backs send them… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

They ended up with Drew Stubbs also. He’s not young (28), but he is younger (and cheaper) than Choo, and has some upside.

Mike in FTC
Mike in FTC
7 years ago

And now the Rangers will be looking for an OF. Dexter Fowler for some Mike Olt and an arm anyone? Of course, the Rangers don’t seem to make knee-jerk reactions so probably not.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago

Its going to be even more comical when the Angels miss the playoffs with a billion dollar team. LOL

I think the Rockies should make a run at Trumbo.

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago
Reply to  ProgMatinee

Trumbo would be a freakin awesome slam dunk home run. So that’s not going to happen. As noted above, I guess the Rangers need an OF now. They have a strong farm. It’s darn tempting to offer them Cargo and his contract (which by their standards is reasonable) for Olt and a couple of arms. Move Colvin to LF, leave Cuddyer and RF, and let Olt play 1st 4-5 games a week with Helton playing maybe twice.

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago
Reply to  ProgMatinee

I’m not sure why the pissing contest between the Dodgers and Angels this off season. Yankees and Red Sox have proven spending $$$$$ doesn’t always work out.

On paper I wouldn’t bet against the Angels. Guess we will find out.

Bill
Bill
7 years ago

DoD has been gun shy ever since the Hampton signing blew up in his face. Come on Dan you fall off the bike, get back up

Julian
Julian
7 years ago

Given the money being thrown around this offseason, Cuddyer’s contract suddenly doesn’t look that expensive. Maybe we can now trade him for a starting pitcher.

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

I don’t think BA’s 2013 prospects list is out yet, but let’s take a look at the 2012 list. Here was their projected 2015 Rockies lineup. I’ve added my percentage rankings of (1) the likelihood that each projected starter will actually be a starting major leaguer; (2) the likelihood that he will be a ROCKIES starter in 2015: C: Rosario (60%/50%) – I’ve never seen a catcher fail solely because he can’t “catch,” but there’s a first for everything. I… Read more »

GARY
GARY
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Not sure my “lifetime”will make it,but love your always thoughtful analysis.Based on the money Dodgers are throwing around,plus great management in SF and valley of the sun,I think we should lobby for a move to the NL central!

Julian
Julian
7 years ago

I saw that the Tigers might want to trade Porcello. Would we want him? Do we have someone that the Tigers would want in return?

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Julian, a lot of *stuff* being yapped today about Porcello and Smyly. I haven’t seen the Rockies mentioned in the mix but it doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the teams.

I’m beginning to appreciate why some call twitter the “cb radio” of today.

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago

See where the Jays are on the verge of giving up Travis d’Arnaud for RA Dickey. If true, that’s a lot to give up for what may be a 1 year rental.

Hypothetical deal for you guys:

Rox send Tulo and Cargo (and their salaries) to the Rangers for Jurickson Profar, Mike Olt, Alexi Ogando, and another strong, high minors Pitcher. Would you do it?

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

I’d make that deal in a second. But the Rangers wouldn’t. Rangers are in an interesting situation with the best SS prospect in baseball blocked by a really good (and young) established SS, and with their existing core I’ve got to think they’ll move one of them since their window of opportunity is now. Anibal Sanchez just re-signed with the Tigers after playing the Cubs for bargaining power, so I imagine Porcello is very available. Wilton Lopez? Betancourt? Belisle? They… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I agree, the Rangers wouldn’t do that – but you have to start high in negotiations, right???

Let me modify it a bit – Tulo and Cargo for Olt, Elvis Andrus, Ogando, and a high minor league pitcher. What do you think about that?

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Inspite of what I think it doesn’t really matter. Mr. O’Dowd is being very clear. Tulo and Gonzalez are not available.

I think I will have Tulo health questions for awhile. While he is definitely a great SS I’m not convinced he should stay there.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago

how sad its become that we’re willing to deal our best players and think that we’re the ones over reaching.

So I guess everyone is now in agreement with what I said 2 years ago? The extensions were dumb.

Bill
Bill
7 years ago

I just saw this quote on an SI.com Media column from John Kruk… Kruk’s strength is his candor and he promises that won’t change from the studio to the broadcast booth. “When I announced for the Phillies, I told them that I could not sugarcoat stuff,” Kruk said. “If it’s a dumb play, I have to say it’s a dumb play. If you don’t like it, then find someone else to do it. Wouldn’t it be nice if our two… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
7 years ago

Wow, looks like MLB signings are not slowing down even with the holiday season upon us.

Julian
Julian
7 years ago

It appears that there won’t be any new Rockies to put under the Christmas trees. I saw that the Yankees are looking for a right handed bat. Do they have any starting pitchers that we want and that they would trade to us for Cuddyer?

Julian
Julian
7 years ago

Would the Yankees trade Phil Hughes for Cuddyer? Would we do that trade?

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Fly ball pitcher. One of the lowest ground ball/fly ball ratios in MLB.

Rocky Mountain High
Rocky Mountain High
7 years ago

Aaaahh that partly explains why the opposing hitters hammered the Rox pitchers:
Quoted from an MLB.com article about Rosario – “Teams noticed that he would narrow his feet when setting up for a fastball and widen dramatically for a breaking pitch.” So there, the hitters knew what was coming and made the pitchers look bad. That probably added two to three runs a game for the other teams in games that Rosario started.

sdcarp
sdcarp
7 years ago

Interesting.

I’m curious, where does the hitter get the signal from regarding FB vs. BB? He probably doesn’t plant his feet until 1-2 seconds before the pitch is thrown.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
7 years ago

I wonder if the Rockies noticed………..probably not.

Agbayani
Agbayani
7 years ago

“from an MLB.com article about Rosario – “Teams noticed that he would narrow his feet when setting up for a fastball and widen dramatically for a breaking pitch.” So there, the hitters knew what was coming and made the pitchers look bad. That probably added two to three runs a game for the other teams in games that Rosario started.” RMH, I think you’re kidding. But at any rate, I’m calling bs on this theory. Rockies Pitchers ERA when Rosario… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
7 years ago

Andrew Brown signs minor league deal with Mets.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/mets-sign-andrew-brown.html

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