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Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Just have to say I love “million dollar arm, ten cent brain.” On throw-in Chris Martin: I mentioned Ryan Speier as a similar type guy. Martin’s minor league numbers look better than Speier’s ever did. Maybe Matt Daley? Daley resurfaced last year with the Yanks — had a fantastic AAA season (12 K/9) and then got another quick look by the big club in Sept. I always liked him. Hope he makes it.

jimboelrod
jimboelrod
6 years ago

Thanks to Jared et al for their work and articles and this site and thanks to all of the regular commenters for their comments. It certainly is nice to read intelligent comments about my beloved Rockies without having to wade through the garbage that you have to go through on some other sites. I have been accused of drinking the Purple Kool-Aid before, but I see this next years team as being much improved. Will they contend to the end… Read more »

GARY
GARY
6 years ago

Merry Christmas to all and have happy holidays.You all are a great tonic to help with my Rockies pain.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago
Reply to  GARY

Merry Christmas, Gary and everyone.

God bless you all.

Eric

lwesche
lwesche
6 years ago

Merry Christmas all!

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

FYI – Buster Olney has ranked his top 10 teams for offensive lineup, defense, and pitching (ESPN Insider). He ranks the Rox #8 for both offensive lineup and defense.

DRH
DRH
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

I’m not an Insider, so can’t see the full story. How do the Rocks compare with other teams in their division? Forget a World Series, could the Rox ever win their Division? Would be interesting to use his stats, if he has them for all teams, and rank within the Division the Rockies in pitching, defense, and lineup. count pitching as a weight of two. then compute an average score. So if we’re #1 in offense (again, within the Division),… Read more »

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago
Reply to  DRH

Interesting theory. I disagree that pitching is 2x as hitting. How about more like:

Defense 1x
Offense 2x
Pitching 3x

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  DRH

To answer question – the Rox are the only NL West team to rank in the top 10 in “lineup” and “defense” categories (8th in both). “bullpens” – Dodgers 5, DBacks 8, Giants 9. Seems to me like DBacks might be getting too much credit for Addison Reed in this category. “rotations” – Dodgers 2 so you can crank this into your formulas. FWIW – Olney’s final ranking article is “top 10 teams” and he has the Dodgers #2, with… Read more »

Bill
Bill
6 years ago

Happy New Year to all. Maybe 2014 will be better for the Rockies and their fans. I still don’t like the trade of Fowler for basically nothing. If you wanted to improve the outfield defense, you could have just moved Cargo to right where he belongs and then put Blackmon or Dickerson in left. Never made sense to me, and still doesn’t, to have your best arm in left field. But who are we fans as compared to the dynamic… Read more »

GARY
GARY
6 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Hey Bill,stop picking on us potheads and drunks-we still wish all a Happy New Year.

DRH
DRH
6 years ago

To prove that not all of my comments are negative, I do like the bullpen pickups of Hawkins & Boone. And I liked the Rocks grabbing someone else’s Rule 5 guy unstead of always losing prospects to other teams. If they keep just 1 of Morales and Lopez then we’ll have the right amount of wildness to keep batters guessing. Both would be too much.

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

I like Hawkins too. Even if he suddenly starts pitching like a 41 year old, you’re only stuck with him for a year. And who knows, he may very well be good again. Logan: not a bad signing, but don’t buy the “effective against righties too” line. He isn’t. The Yankees used him properly, let’s hope we do too. Morales: same as Hawkins. Why not? Here’s the thing with him: he’s also very effective against lefties. He’s so talented that… Read more »

roxnsox
roxnsox
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Nobody was a bigger Frankie fan than me, but I gave up. The guy has had a WHOLE lot of chances to pull it together. He’s rarely lost the deer-in-the-headlights look. I will give him another chance, especially given your points here, Ag, but that must be midwinter baseball jones talking in my head….

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  roxnsox

In my opinion……Frankie’s success (or lack thereof) will be a function of how he’s used. Even though it’s super tempting to think of him as a 5th starter or a high leverage lefty specialist, I think his best chance to succeed is as a long reliever. As noted by Ag and others, he’s effective against lefties. Also duly noted by others……we have a staff full of #4 starters, so we have a bigger need for long guys than any other… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago

Rafael Ortega didn’t last very long with the Rangers. They designated him for assignment to get him off of their 40 man roster. He is now a Cardinal as St. Louis claimed him from the Rangers.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/01/cardinals-claim-rafael-ortega.html

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

roxnsox, I know what you mean. Some wishful thinking on my part regarding Frankie finally becoming reliable enough to, well, rely on. I guess I’d just rather give that 5th starter shot to someone like him rather than someone like Garland, Francis, Moyer, Volstad, all the completely washed up guys we’ve gone with the last couple years. Last place clubs can afford to try that!

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Reds sign Jeff Francis. For all the grief I give Frick and Frack in the Rox front office, I have to say there are some other clubs trying their best to make the Rox brass look like freakin’ geniuses this offseason: Reds – for a serious contender, they haven’t done squat AND they lost Choo. They may (probably) will lose Arroyo. They may yet deal Bailey for a king’s ransom and make me take this one back. Orioles – for… Read more »

Bill
Bill
6 years ago

Probably the dumbest move of the off-season goes to the Cubs for picking a baby bear named “Clark” as the first mascot in team history. We’ll have to see how he performs but so far all I’ve read is that he (she?) is an unmitigated disaster as far as Cubs fans are concerned. Maybe “it” will turn out even worse than the Rockies mascot. And for the life of me I can’t remember his name. I know it’s not Dumbo… Read more »

Bill
Bill
6 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Dinger!

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Laugh if you want…..but my wife loves Dinger. It’s 50% of the reason she goes to the games. The other 50% is the jumbotron. In fact……if they sold Colorado craft beers for a semi-reasonable price inside the stadium, she’d probably be in favor of buying season tickets. Honestly, she’ could be a poster fan for the Monfort’s target audience. Hardcore “baseball” fans hate the mascots…..but the casual fans love them.

Trip
Trip
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

All the kids love Dinger. Keep him. Although I personally think he’s dumbo.

Love the Philly fanatic. I think it’s the person inside more than anything.

Nuggets Rocky is one of the all time great mascots.

sabrchip
sabrchip
6 years ago

Not that this is a good thing but the “best” mascot was back in the 80s when the Giants had “the Crazy Crab”

Fans would boo him incessantly, then he’d turn his back side to them and lift up his shell. Couldn’t tell you who got more grief; Tom LaSorda or the Crab.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Here’s a shocker guys – our boy Tyler Colvin failed an Orioles physical. The Orioles are the biggest clown show in baseball……by far.

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Actually that shouldn’t have come as much of a surprise since Colvin spent most of the end of his minor league season at Colorado Springs on the DL.

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago
Reply to  Bob K.

It’s an even-numbered year, watch out for Tyler Colvin!

2010: .254, 113 OPS+
2011: .150, 38
2012: .290, 114
2013: .160, 21

Even numbered, he’s better than average. Odd numbered, one of the worst players in baseball.

But yeah, what’s with the Orioles and the failed physicals?

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I did a bit of research and it seems the O’s got smoked to the tune of 1.75M by Xavier Hernandez in 1999 (signed, failed physical, but a loophole in the contract still netted him the $$$$). In 2000, Aaron Sele signed, failed physical, O’s offered less time (2 years instead of 4)…..so Sele walked. He signed with the Mariners and had several solid years there. Since then……there have been a few others, (Jair Jurrgens) last year. They seem to… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago

MLB network 2014 top 100 prospects list. (limited to players who have rookie status for 2014).

14. Jonathan Gray RHP
41. Eddie Butler RHP
71. David Dahl OF
99. Rosell Herrera SS

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

We’re starting to get early projections on the 2014 season from some of the better experts. Saber guru Clay Davenport just posted his first projections. (claydavenport.com) Bottom line for us: Rockies project as the 3rd worst team in baseball at 71-91. That’s 3 games better than the worst (Cubs) and just one game better than the Astros. Now I will admit that Davenport’s projections, while objectively sound, seem a little too bleak for the Rockies. That’s primarily because of playing… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

As a long time fantasy player in a very, very deep League with some shrewd Owners, the evolution of stats projections fascinates me…….and I think it can be relatively accurate. I know I use them. However, one area where their various algorithms routinely stub their collective toes is allowing injuries in previous years to cloud upcoming projections. Two current stars come to mind immediately – Adrian Beltre and Carlos Beltran. Both dealt with consistent, nagging injuries through almost 3 consecutive… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Rox sign Paul Janish. Too bad he’s not a Catcher.

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago

I hadn’t seen Alanna Rizzo on MLB network for awhile. She is now a Dodger!! Boo!

http://www.truebluela.com/2013/12/8/5189478/orel-hershiser-alanna-rizzo-dodgers-tv-broadcasts

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Keith Law rates the Rox farm system #8 in MLB……calling it “sneaky good” and “under the radar.” I’ve never known Law to be a fan of anything Rockies, so this must be legit. He rates the Astros system #1 and tells Astros fans there’s light at the end of the tunnel and it’s a freight train. On the other end of the spectrum, he rates the Brewers #30 and says there not a single player in the entire system that… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Thanks for pointing that out sdcarp. Good news, and yes, the Rockies have done a pretty nice job replenishing the minors. Houston is an interesting case for the future. They knew they weren’t competitive so new GM Luhnow basically tanked the last few seasons in exchange for high draft picks. If it works, it’ll be the model for a lot of “mid-market” teams, kind of a super-competition cycle theory: try to bring up a core of highly-rated young players at… Read more »

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I’d like to think the “start all over” doesn’t need to be from a completely blank page. If you raise up a lot of good players you can then trade them away for talented prospects, limiting the cycle time. Its really only total incompetence like the Rockies front office that could go from a World Series with a ton of young(ish) talent in 2007 to becoming a laughing stock in 3 years. Who knows what we’d have had if we… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Law points out that with so many high picks in the last half-dozen years, the Astros farm SHOULD be good by now. He also rates the Cubs high (#3 I think) and it’s essentially the same logic and analysis that he applies to the Astros.

He rates the Twins (with Buxton, Sano, and some young power arms) #2.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Manny Corpas signed to minor league deal. Nick Masset close to signing deal (presumably minor league also). Looks like there will definitely be some competition to make the Rox pen in ST, and maybe some reinforcements waiting in the Springs (although these type deals typically have opt out clauses also).

Prior to injury – Masset was a solid pitcher. He’s worth a shot if its a low risk deal.

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Joe Montana, Kansas City Chief, 1993-94. Brett Favre, New York Jet, 2008, Minnesota Viking, 2009-10. Why do I keep thinking of these guys tonight? Pitchers and catchers report a week from Saturday …

Bob in Indy
Bob in Indy
6 years ago

OK, now that THAT’S behind us, let’s start talking baseball again. As bad as the game was, at least it only leaves a couple of weeks between seasons.

lwesche
lwesche
6 years ago

I need to find a new winter hobby….that WAS brutal. But agree, pitchers and catchers better be packing their bags!

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago

In Denver we only have 365 days next year of radio talk about how the Broncos blew this game. At least there will be more diversity in the conversation as opposed to the one play they talked about all last year. Too bad the media can’t move on into baseball.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

I’m not an NFL fan…..but I love the Superbowl because it creates a great ski weekend. This year…..with the Broncos in the game and 3 feet of snow during the week, it was exponentially better on the slopes than a normal SB. 30000 vertical feet yesterday. Nothing but Copper and Union Bowls Saturday. AND…….in the silly office Superbowl “square” game I drew a “0” on the Broncos axis. Had an “8” for the ‘hawks – so I won the first… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
6 years ago

Shouldn’t we bid on Bronson Arroyo? He would guarantee us 200 IP with an ERA below 4.50. He can pitch at Coors if he can pitch at the Great American Ballpark. No compensation pick to lose either by signing him.

I would sign him to one year, maybe two max. He definitely a solid rotation guy but he might be blocking Gray Wolf, Nicasio, Matzek, Butler, Friedrich, etc.

GARY
GARY
6 years ago

Innings eater-yes for the right price!

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

There’s a fair amount of chatter that Ervin Santana is headed towards a contract within the next few days………………but our boy Ubaldo is still high and dry and even the Indians seem reluctant to offer him a 1 year, lowball contract (they obviously wouldn’t have to forfeit a draft pick). The whole draft pick compensation thing has radically changed the FA market, but I still wonder if Ubaldo is toting around some serious personal baggage that people in the ‘biz… Read more »

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago

I can see Ubaldo having a poor year if his confidence is shaken. Hopefully he bounces back with competitive spirit instead. I hope the Tribe resigns him.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  Bob K.

Bob K – I breezed thru that really quickly, but saw in Renck’s blog this afternoon (or at least I thought I saw it!) that Monfort said we have 4 – #1 starters. Someone maybe can verify that – but if he said that – he’s crazier than we thought.

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

“We have four # 1 starters” is his way of saying “we don’t have an ace.” Other gems: — if LeMahieu hits, he could be an All Star. Which is his way of saying that DJ is a good field, no hit kind of guy. — he dealt Fowler because we have a “surplus” of outfielders. Which is presumably why he then picked up MLB strikeout king Stubbs and AAA strikeout king Barnes. Where exactly are you hiding that surplus,… Read more »

GARY
GARY
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Wifi and a party deck-I’m ready to move in now!

Cisco Kid
Cisco Kid
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I just wish Dickie Boy would just stop talking. Every time he opens up his mouth he insults the intelligence of those who know what’s really going on at 20th & Blake.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Who’s going to ST? My wife and I are making a bonzai trip the first weekend in March. Not the best time to go…..but the only space on our calendar AND my wife is jazzed to get out of the cold for 48 hours. Sorry Rox……but looking at the schedule, we may do Rangers/A’s and Mariners/Indians…….and maybe the Saturday evening DBacks game.

EdtheUmp
EdtheUmp
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

sd… i’ll be at all the rox games…sec 109, row 4, seats 11-12 if you get to SRF… if you go make sure to come down and say hi…mary is the usher on the dugout row of sec 109…she knows me from coors field…she know everyone and will point me out… come on down!! RWOers…I’ve been pretty quiet this offseason…no reason but i’ll start showing my “know-it-all attitude before long… as usual, I am optimistic with the upcoming season…we’ll see…… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  EdtheUmp

Ed – if we go to SRF – I will DEFINITELY come find you! I’ve been to SRF several times and really, really like it. I think it’s grand. But I’m sort of on an unofficial quest to go to all the ST sites, and I haven’t been to Phoenix Stadium (the A’s) and they have the Rangers that Saturday. I think the Rox are on the road the next day. For those that haven’t been to ST…..as far as… Read more »

TJinPhoenix
TJinPhoenix
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Hey all, Ed-I need to talk to the captain and see what dates we can come up with. But in addition to a family outing, I’ll look at a weekday game to meet up with you (half the fun is ditching work!). Also, I’m heading over to SRF this Monday for the first Pitchers/Catchers workout with my boy. I’ll snap a few pics, curious to see Jon Gray and a few others….If anyone else in in the area, let me… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Cubs opened a brand new stadium Cubs Park inMesa that is supposed to look similar to Wrigley. Rox will play there twice in the first couple of weeks tickets were going pretty brisk obviously.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Funny thing – I never used to buy tickets in advance. But the Cactus League has become so popular (especially at a couple of venues….SRF being one) that I have seen them sell out in recent years.

I’m a fan of Goodyear. Nice park, easy access, ample parking…..and the plane graveyards nearby just blow my mind.

Pooter
Pooter
6 years ago

Wiess mentioned in an article on Coloradorockies.com that he was thinking about batting Cuddy in the two hole. I absolutely love that idea, I would even take it one step further and bat him leadoff! Who ever is in left and second base needs to be at the bottom of the lineup!

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Pooter, I agree. My main fear was DJ batting second on the old fashioned “he can handle the bat” theory. I’d go Cargo at the top — he always seemed to do well there — with the pitcher batting 8th. That way Cargo wouldn’t follow the pitcher, and he’d get more plate appearances over the course of the year. But since that won’t happen I’m ok with this order for now.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Stuff I can’t make up (from RotoWorld):

“Drew Pomeranz had his scheduled bullpen session pushed back on Saturday due to a troublesome ingrown hair.”

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Hah! Yeah, I’ll admit it carp, I had to look it up since I thought you must be making it up. “ingrown hair on his leg that had to be lanced.” That’s a new one …. Pom off to a great start with Oakland.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I remember once (I think it was towards the end of the 2K12 season) the ROOT announcers were talking about our minor leaguers / prospects and George Frazier said (in the nicest, most filtered, most professional way possible……the the extent that 9 out 10 listeners probably didn’t get it) that Pomeranz (my words now) was a big sissy that would never be a major league pitcher if he didn’t toughen up.

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

Rot-roh…….looks like Ubaldo is on the verge of greeting an Orioles physical!

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Make that “getting”……damn spell check / autocorrect

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Actually since it is the Orioles, greeting may be the appropriate word. Lets hope they have a good enough pitching coach to keep him at his best. Four years and $50M.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/02/orioles-to-sign-ubaldo-jimenez.html

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