Rizzo: Worst Trade Ever?

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It’s days like today that make me believe that we aren’t the only team making questionable off-season decisions.  The Padres just made a doozy: Anthony Rizzo and Zach Cates go to the Cubs for right-hander Andrew Cashner and minor league outfielder Kyung-Min Na.  Um, is it just me or did Epstein just complete the greatest “loan” in history, giving the Padres Rizzo as part of the Adrian Gonzalez trade, only to take him back for peanuts.

Epstein selected Rizzo in the sixth round of the 2007 amateur draft as the Red Sox GM, so you know he knew what he had.  I know Rizzo had a hard time the few games he played last season, but by all accounts the kids is legit.  In AAA he posted a .331/.404/.652 line with 26 homers in 413 plate appearances.

Am I missing something here, or did the Padres just hand over a potential Ferrari for two Hyundai’s?

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Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Jaredean, what you’re missing is this: Rizzo put up those minor league numbers in the hitter-crazy PCL. And in the even more hitter-crazy park in Tucson. Think “Sky Sox numbers.” Going over to fangraphs, I see that the Bill James projection system projects a major league line next year of .236/.312/.425, for a 737 OPS. The guy they’re going to play in Padre land, Yonder Alonso, projects at .277/.345/.446 (791 OPS). By the way, that’s not exactly great either. So… Read more »

Jaredean
Jaredean
8 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

So either the padres made a bad trade with the cubs because he is that great, or they gave up Gonzalez for a song because he isn’t that great 🙂 it works both ways. If he was the centerpiece in the AGone trade they must have thought only a year ago that he was legit. Now they are trading him for who exactly?

GARY
GARY
8 years ago

Everyone keeps putting Cuddyer at first.Isn’t Blake as likely,even more likely to spell Todd and add additional RH bat when necessary?

Rich M
Rich M
8 years ago

If LeMahieu or Nelson are the MLB utility infield guys and assuming Blake is healthy, then you might be right. However if Herrara is the Rockies utility guy, then his power factor doesn’t play well enough at third more than an inning or so at a time. Although in theory at least Cuddyer could spend some time at third with Blake at first base (or more likely vice versa) against a lefty starter. Aw isn’t versatility great when you have… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago

Gary, I’ve learned not believe believe anything coming out of the Rockies when it comes to some players and some positions. Everything coming from Cuddyer is he will be the everyday right fielder. Fill in at 1st for Todd? I’m guessing newly aquired Chad Tracy may be seeing some of that playing time.

Wayne
Wayne
8 years ago

One thing you have to take into account anytime you talk Padres is Petco Park. Probably one of the worst hitters parks in all of MLB. Rizzo is going from a division with 3 terrible offensive ballparks to a division where every park is good for a hitter. He will be a lot better than the projection just because of the division he is in. Yonder Alonso is going to have a tough time, going from a bandbox in Cincy… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
8 years ago

I think a worse Padres trade may very well turn out to be righty pitching prospect Simon Castro and lefty pitching prospect Pedro Hernandez for Carlos Quentin. Lots of varying opinions by “insiders” and fans alike. An interesting side bar to this trade was the discussion of outfielders UZR numbers. MLB tv brought up the stats for different players and while the focus was on Quentin’s ability to play the outfield in Petco, they showed the stats for the worst… Read more »

Rich M
Rich M
8 years ago

Just let me add that the UZR stat doesn’t pass the sight test with me, as Dex is one of the best defensive outfielders that I have ever seen play the game, and I have been watching a really long time now. Same with Seth Smith as if I recall he was suppose to be slightly above average for the first few years of his career, then everyone starts saying how terrible he is in leftfield. For one I just… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
8 years ago

Raysfan, for some time I’ve been thinking there’s something quirky — and wrong — about UZR numbers for Rockies/Coors Field outfielders. Example: Willy Taveras: 2005 (Astros/Minute Maid): + 11.7 runs/150 games 2006 (same): + 26.1 2007 (Rockies/Coors): – 9.8 2008 (same): – 5.1 2009 (Reds/Great American): + 15.9 2010 (Nationals): + 17.7 (very limited action) I find it hard to believe that Willy — a centerfielder with truly exceptional range — suddenly got worse in his age 25-26 seasons, only… Read more »

GARY
GARY
8 years ago

IMO,Cargo,and Dex are two of the best to ever roam the broad expanse of Coors Field.But,at least last year,Smith was one of the worst! I would say his performance after the All star break made me long for the good old days of Brad Hawpe,or even Dante Bichette!

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