ROX HOT STOVE 2017 – VOLUME I

Ladies and Gentlemen – welcome to the most significant, relevant, and hence exciting Hot Stove season for the Rox in recent memory. Let’s do a quick review:

1. Were coming off a “successful” (based on realistic expectations) season. 75 wins. Up from 68 in 2015. And it’s not a stretch to say if Trevor Story doesn’t suffer a season ending injury, we would have pushed a 500 season (81 wins) even with a miserable bullpen.
2. Young, talented, deep starting pitching.
3. Bonafide stars – Arenado, Story, Blackmon, Grey, Dahl….with DJ not missing by much.
4. A real, experienced, credible Manager – thank you Bud Black.
5. A young, smart, talented GM.
6. Real signs that Montfort is willing to be more “hands off” with day-to-day baseball operations moving forward.
7. Stated willingness to increase payroll.

Do I have your attention?????

What’s ahead?

A. New Bench, Batting, and Base coaches.
B. New CBA. Their are whispers of two items that I believe can potentially benefit the Rockies a tad bit more than other teams – move to 154 games and 26 man rosters. There are also whispers that the CBA may be complete by the end of this month.
C. Need to “fix” the bullpen.
D. Solve 1st base.
E. Continued integration of young players into the mix.

I propose we post all Hot Stove related comments/ideas/links/thoughts here until the thread gets too long, then we can start Volume II if necessary.

I’m interested to hear everyone’s ideas regarding the BP, 1st base, potential coaches, etc. Don’t be shy. 2017 is destined to be exciting!

Here’s a link to the important offseason dates:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2016-17-mlb-offseason-free-agency-winter-meetings-other-important-dates/

sdcarp

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Interesting trade. It’s a lot of money. I think that I’m thumbs down on it, although, as others have said, it might depend on other moves that are made. My questions are the following: how much better will Desmond be than the combination of Mark Reynolds and Jordan Patterson in 2017? Starting in 2018, how much better will Ian Desmond be than Ryan McMahon, particularly when you factor in the cost differential and the draft pick.

jimboelrod
jimboelrod
3 years ago

I like the Desmond signing and I disagree with David Schoenfield of ESPN who states “Going from 75 wins to 90 won’t be easy and Desmond isn’t much of an upgrade over Reynolds.” The Rox 75 win total from last year was as a result of Trevor Story going down the end of July. If Story stays healthy the Rox win at least 81 maybe 82 games. Bud Black vs WW should add another 3 wins at least. A 1B… Read more »

Agbayani
Agbayani
3 years ago

Carp, I have the feeling you’re trying to talk yourself into liking the Desmond signing. Because weird (and ultimately unproductive) as the Parra signing was last year, this one makes that signing seem downright logical. If Desmond really is going to play 1B, you might as well have just brought back Reynolds on a 1-year deal. Desmond’s value is his positional value – other than that lost 2015, he hits really well FOR A SHORTSTOP and pretty well FOR A… Read more »

roxnsox
roxnsox
3 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Arenado? NO way they are doing that. But as we are saying, there’s got to be more to this. My first thought was where Desmond was supposed to play! Saunders says he’s the new first baseman. Who has never started at first base in the majors. Right. There’s got to be more! Bridich can’t be continuing the time-honored Rockies tradition of terrible, head-scratching moves! Can he?

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago
Reply to  roxnsox

There absolutely has to be more since the Rockies still have a vacant spot on the 40 man roster as they did not take anyone in the first round of the Rule 5 draft. They did take catcher Anthony Bemboom from the Angels in the Triple-A phase of the Rule 5 draft.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

The Rockies made no selection in the first round of the Rule 5 Draft. Josh Rutledge however was selected by the Red Sox so his signing by the Rockies was short lived.

Julian
Julian
3 years ago

I’m surprised that the Rockies couldn’t find one player to draft in the Rule 5 draft. I guess that they’d rather spend 70 million dollars than $50,000.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

With the new CBA, Rule 5 draftees in the ML portion now cost $100,000 but your point is still valid.

Bill
Bill
3 years ago

Getting Strohman would be great. Or I think it would be great. Never know with pitchers at Coors. We keep thinking that there must be more to the Desmond deal and I hope so. But what? To trade any of their infielders would bring a haul (or should) and if Desmond replaces them he gives us more age and isn’t as good as Arenado, Story or DJ. But more power than DJ. But what if Story’s injury is worse than… Read more »

Doc
Doc
3 years ago

So many theories going around as to why in the hell they did it. Lot of speculation that they’re going to trade Blackmon which would open up CF for Desmond but Charlie’s a lot better and cheaper. They’d have to get a lot in return and I doubt they’d get it. I’m inclined to think they’re after the most versatile line up they can, guys that can be moved around in double switches and afford more down time for the… Read more »

Bill
Bill
3 years ago

Doc- Hope you’re right. Taking the best players regardless of position has it’s merits. Better than DoD’s theory of taking the best QB available. Would have worked well if O’Dowd took Russell Wilson for the Broncos.

Agbayani
Agbayani
3 years ago

Very interesting. And if the Rockies aren’t close to being done spending, my perspective on the Desmond signing changes, particularly if he gets used in the Zobrist way, moving all over the diamond depending on matchups, who’s hurt, who’s slumping, etc.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Fowler reportedly got a 5 year deal for $82.5 million.

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berechnung vorfälligkeitsentschädigung kredit
3 years ago

Shiver me timbers, them’s some great information.

rockymountainhigh
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rockymountainhigh
3 years ago

I’m happy for Chettis and his full recovery from testicular cancer.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

Barring any other changes the Rockies will pick 3rd in the Competitive Balance Draft round B. It will be the 69th pick of the draft as things stand.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

Ian Desmond was finally announced today and added to the 40 man roster. Supposedly signed as a 1st baseman, it is interesting that he was added to the 40 man roster as an outfielder. Rockies still have 2 open spots on the 40 man roster.

http://rockiesroster.com/rockies/40-man/

Agbayani
Agbayani
3 years ago

Bob K., that’s very interesting, listing Desmond as an outfielder. Just carrying over his position from last year? Trying to balance out INF/OF on the 40 man list? Or an insight into how Rockies management really sees him being used?

JulieG
JulieG
3 years ago

The Denver Post article today went into detail about him being at 1st. That doesn’t mean that management can’t change their minds:-)

roxnsox
roxnsox
3 years ago
Reply to  sdcarp

Really really nice lineup in your “somehow” scenario, carp. But I just can’t see a 5-year $70 million deal going to a Superduper Utility Guy. It’ll be interesting to see what unfolds.

Doc
Doc
3 years ago

Like the scenario,k Carp, especially dumping Para

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

Carasiti and Cardullo have both been re-signed to minor league deals with the Rockies.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago
rockymountainhigh
Admin
rockymountainhigh
3 years ago

Yes we got Dunn!! Keep adding BP arms.

rockymountainhigh
Admin
rockymountainhigh
3 years ago

He was the best remaining BP pitcher on the market. And he had pitched over 10 years with average over 60 innings, 10 strikeouts per 9, and FIP in mid 3 range. Very consistent and he’s NOT a LOOGY pitcher. Mind of reminds me of Matt Belisle when he was excellent BP piece.

rockymountainhigh
Admin
rockymountainhigh
3 years ago

And Dunn gets us to league average or better. Will the BP get better if we re-sign Boone Logan.

Doc
Doc
3 years ago

Any chance Rox sign Ziegler? DEC. 16: FanRag’s Jon Heyman and the New York Post’s Joel Sherman both hear that Ziegler is close to a decision (Twitter links). Sherman notes that the Yankees and Mets haven’t been in serious contact with Ziegler’s camp since the Winter Meetings, so he’s likely headed elsewhere. Heyman relays word of a team that has yet to be linked to Ziegler remaining in the mix. (The “mystery team” strikes again!) Cotillo adds a bit more… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago
Reply to  Doc

Nope, Ziegler signed with the Marlins, 2 years for $16MM.

Agbayani
Agbayani
3 years ago

Mike Dunn: Carp is right. He is about as close a match to Boone Logan as exists in baseball. He’s a year younger and certainly has been more durable (about 150 innings over the last 3 years compared to just about 100 for Logan) so there is that, but I wouldn’t consider him to be any kind of upgrade. Logan was solid when healthy; that’s about what we should hope for (solid, healthy) from Dunn. He was used more or… Read more »

rockymountainhigh
Admin
rockymountainhigh
3 years ago

I was watching Baseball Tonight on MLBN. They played a “game” where the names were thrown out one by one. The answers had to be naming only one team should get that player.

Trombo back to Orioles. Joe Carter’s name came up and they said Rockies.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

I assume that you are referring to Chris Carter who played 1st base for the Brewers last year. Joe Carter has been retired for a long time.

rockymountainhigh
Admin
rockymountainhigh
3 years ago

Yes I meant Chris Carter.

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

Coaching staff finally announced. Seems like most are from the Rockies minor leagues.

http://roxpile.com/2016/12/22/colorado-rockies-announce-2017-coaching-staff/

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago

From MLBTradeRumors “Just over three months after outrighting Rafael Ynoa in September, the Rockies have brought back the utilityman. The 29-year-old Ynoa totaled 202 PAs with the Rockies from 2014-15, but he took only five trips to the plate with Colorado last season. All told, he has batted .281/.306/.372 in 207 plate appearances with the Rockies and .270/.344/.364 in nearly 4,000 minor league PAs. Along with Ynoa, Colorado picked up righty C.C. Lee. The Taiwan native pitched in Japan last… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
3 years ago
lwesche
lwesche
3 years ago

One month from today – first game against AZ. Hope springs eternal!

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