So Long Dex…

In a move that makes almost no sense at all, the Rockies decided to trade Dexter Fowler to the Astros for…wait for it…Jordan Lyles and Brandon Barnes.  If that wasn’t bad enough the team will also be sending a player to be named later to Houston.

Sure, Fowlers numbers weren’t stellar: .263 w/18 doubles, 42 RBI’s and 19 stolen bases in 119 games.  Yes, he never really seemed to put together a complete season full of highlight reels, which is very frustrating, but it was those few moments of  sheer brilliance in the field or when he strung together clutch hits over several weeks at a time that had the faithful hoping he could really make a go of it each season.

Alas, he will have his chance on the other basement dwelling team in the majors.

In return the Rockies will get Lyles who went 7-9 with a 5.59 ERA over 27 games last season.  Over his first three season in the majors Lyles is 14-29 with a 5.35 ERA.  Nothing to write home about, unless you wanted to tell your family you still don’t know how to pitch.

The other player named in the trade, Brandon Barnes, is 27 and hit .240 with eight HR’s and 41 RBIs as a rookie last season.  He did play 43 games in 2012 for the ‘Stros and gave Mendoza a run for his money, hitting .204.

Geivett joined KOA and Andrew Fisher (@PoseidonsFist) posted some snippets of the conversation:

…extremely difficult to let Dexter go, but it’s also difficult for us to acquire starting pitching…in any trade, we look to acquire starting pitching first…Lyles was the target of the package…this opens us up to some other options in free agency or trade with that salary relief…We were fortunate to get a young starter that we control for a whole. He was rushed to MLB. Our guys like his cutter…Our guys think Lyles is like where Hammel was when we acquired him. That things will start to go his direction now…payroll would be comparable whether Dex traded or not. That salary will be used for moves to come…

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jaredean
jaredean
6 years ago

is anyone other than Ego happy about this???

egossage
egossage
6 years ago

I’m surprised we got this much for Fowler!

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago

So, what happened to that Fowler for Trumbo proposal? LOL. That was way too good to be true. I am shocked that there was not a better deal involving prospects to be had from Atlanta or some other team that is looking for just 1 more solid player. Why Houston? They certainly weren’t going to overspend for Fowler…and its obvious they didn’t. Is this another one of those classic O’Dowd moves in hurting his employing organization because he isn’t happy… Read more »

egossage
egossage
6 years ago
Reply to  ProgMatinee

Fowler for Trumbo??? Haha yeah right! A legit All-Star for a very inconsistent hitter who can’t hit away from Coors Field? I do believe all of you are over valuing William just like the Rockies have done for years!

TJinPhoenix
TJinPhoenix
6 years ago

I skimmed over this on the DP and thought WE were getting the PTBNL (3 for our 1)…ooops.

Maybe they can throw in some old Enron stock or parts of the (soon to be dismantled) Astrodome??

Bill
Bill
6 years ago

Can somebody, other than Ego, explain the rationale for this? Is it a salary dump? Is he hurt so bad that anything we get will help? Rockies finally hire a base-running coach who knows how to steal bases and they trade Dex. Maybe EY believes the sleeper is Barnes. I missed DoD’s rant that Dex was not competitive enough but after hearing about this 2nd hand just a minute ago I’m guessing that Dan knocked any trade value that he… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago

I recall someone posting that Fowler was in O’Dowd’s doghouse and it would be like him to send a player to the worst team just like he did with Alex White last year.

Aside from that, since Fowler was owed 7+ million for 2014 and it looks like they got nothing in return, it appears to be a salary dump.

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

And so it came to pass in that bleakest day of winter, the lowly Astros became buyers and the once-mighty Rockies became sellers. Pure salary dump. Pure garbage in return. Of course we know they shopped Fowler to everyone so obviously the market for him was piss poor, but still … Could you get us at least one decent prospect? Someone other than “organizational filler?” Wow. This just went from depressing to embarrassing. And ego, we know you hate William,… Read more »

Bill
Bill
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Just listened to an interview with Geivett on Dave Logan show. He did not seem enthused saying that they are always looking for starting pitching and said, “our people liked Lyles” not that he liked Lyles.

Whatever happened to the talk about the first baseman that makes the most sense to me, James Loney?

egossage
egossage
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

I will never miss him. And his replacement in CF is Cargo.

ProgMatinee
ProgMatinee
6 years ago

Geivett was such a bore of an interview. Its like he doesn’t even enjoy his work. Sounded defeated and resigned to the Rockies being bottom feeders. The comment that salary will be used for something else, has me unexcited because basically its get 3 cheap players for the cost of 1 player. Personally, I think talent is better than quantity.

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Thanks for the update, Jared. Let me put the O’Dowd spin on it (we gotta find some reason not to hate this): 1. We see Lyles as a lot like Chatwood. Both were rushed, both have good arms and were previously high ranked prospects. Both have strong groundball tendencies which we’ve seen works well in our park. Both are still young, and with Chatwood-Butler-Gray-Lyles we think we have the basis for a very strong cost-controlled 1-4 starters for the next… Read more »

sdcarp
sdcarp
6 years ago

The thing that is so funny to me…….two teams that in my mind are sort of in a parallel universe to the Rox (Twins and A’s) are having brilliant off-seasons. If I somehow inherited this team, I would fire the front office tomorrow and hire a Billy Beane assistant without an interview and know that we would be in better shape than we are now.

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
6 years ago

I was going to post early but it would have been along the lines of a rambling mad man. Plus I wanted to hear the BS sob story from freakin Geivett. As pointed out above, last week someone did predict the clock was ticking and Fowler was gone because he pissed off O’Dowd. They were right. kudos to that person. Sorry but being respectful to Mr. O’Dowd is over. Geivett and O’Dowd need to go. Both of them NOW. Geivett… Read more »

Roxnsox
Roxnsox
6 years ago

Who do I kill?

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Raysfan, you win the thread! Jeff Sullivan at fangraphs on Lyles (read the whole thing!) “The real key here is Lyles, who’s young for a guy with 65 big-league starts. Apparently the Rockies feel like he was a little rushed, and he’s been a quality prospect in the not-distant past. Before 2011, Baseball America ranked him baseball’s #42 overall prospect. He debuted when he was 20, and he’s already approaching 400 innings. They haven’t been great innings, but then they… Read more »

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
6 years ago
Reply to  Agbayani

Thank you for posting this.

Bob in Indy
Bob in Indy
6 years ago

OMG, just as I was about to comment that in less than 4 months we will have to listen to Drew and George tell us how wonderful Jordan and Brandon are, I made the mistake of going to the Rockies website. Lo and behold, the video already has Drew spewing the company line on this. Good grief!

Agbayani
Agbayani
6 years ago

Bob, the Rockies spin machine will be working overtime, but so far nobody is buying it. Poster “Tom Nawrocki” on baseballthinkfactory’s thread on this trade: [On why O’Dowd didn’t like Dex] “He strikes out too much, and the organization seems to think guys who walk a lot aren’t trying hard enough. I am reminded of when they dumped Seth Smith and Chris Iannetta after the 2011 season. I expect them to put Charlie Blackmon, the organization’s current fair-haired boy, in… Read more »

Bob K.
Bob K.
6 years ago

Here comes Justin Morneau. I am not impressed.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/rockies-to-sign-justin-morneau.html

Mike Raysfan
Mike Raysfan
6 years ago
Reply to  Bob K.

Total BS. Just like the letter from Mr. Monfort. Total BS. So I guess by Rockies definition a “big bat” is: .259/.323/.411 with 17 homers. Ag, if what you posted from Tom Nawrocki is true then this is why they went with Morneau! LOL “His walk rate has also taken a dip – he walked in 11.3 percent of his plate appearances from 2007-10, but he walked in just 7.9 percent of his trips to the plate in 2013.” source:… Read more »

Jeff F
Jeff F
6 years ago

We dump Fowler for another pitcher that Houston, yes Houston didn’t even want to keep. Can we now trade the ownership for a new ownership who cares about winning and not just making money. This trade makes no sense.

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